Am I the only one who thinks Treyarch sucks?
Sometimes I wonder if I’m in the minority when it comes to hating Treyarch. I haven’t been to a COD forum for sometime now, last time I was on one everyone had just found out Treyarch was making COD5 and they were expressing their disgust not only for Treyarch but for WW2 as well. It was pretty clear the community wanted another modern warfare, I wonder whos idea it was to basically say FU to the community and make another WW2 theme against the majority of our wishes?
You may be asking “what’s your beef with cod5?” Allow me to name a few of the things off…
- After updating the servers list, you have to actually close down the game and reload it otherwise you can’t enter a server because of the famous “server authentication error”. I can see having some bugs when the game first comes out, but the game has been out now for months and the browser is STILL broken. What kind of preschool company would allow such a huge bug to remain without patching it?
- The sound. I think no explanation is needed.
- Search & Destroy can’t determine the actual winner. Say you’re playing S&D to 7 and one team has 7 and the other has 0, if the losing team wins the final match they win the whole thing. Perhaps this is something that should have been fixed in the first patch? I mean no rush, just one of your game modes is completely broken, take your time Treyarch.
- Auto-climb was annoying in COD4 but it was just something everyone had to accept. In COD5 you CONSTANTLY find yourself getting hung up on stupid crap. For example sometimes you will be running through a field and all the sudden your forward movement stops and you’re trying to figure out what’s happening only to look down and see you’re “caught” on a little rock or stick. In COD4 this isn’t a problem because the game would simply let you walk over or around this small object.
I could go on but what’s the point? Treyarch doesn’t care because they’re too busy counting the money they made off of us. What about Activision? You think they will reward Treyarch with another COD title after this one? I would hope not. They should have never taken the rights away from IW to begin with. Why would you look at the huge sucess of COD4 and then turn around and give the next title dev rights to Treyarch after IW did such a good job?
I should say that it’s not ALL bad from Treyarch. They added the friends option which is cool. The prestige option like COD4 consoles had was cool until the power rank servers came out which totally ruined the whole idea. Other than those two thinks I can’t honestly say I like anything else about it. I’ve already become sick of COD5 and gone back to COD4. Bad part is I installed Windows 7 yesterday and found out that COD4 and Windows 7 don’t get along so I’m forced to play COD5. It’s actually Punkbuster that doesn’t work with Windows 7 but don’t even get me started on how worthless Punkbuster is, they’re worse than Treyarch.
I will have to make a correction to what you said on number 4 “# Auto-climb was annoying in COD4 but it was just something everyone had to accept. In COD5 you CONSTANTLY find yourself getting hung up on stupid crap. For example sometimes you will be running through a field and all the sudden your forward movement stops and you’re trying to figure out what’s happening only to look down and see you’re “caught” on a little rock or stick. In COD4 this isn’t a problem because the game would simply let you walk over or around this small object.”
You did actually get stuck on stupid stuff like a teddy bear and on shipment there was this piece of metal on the middle of the map that you would get stuck on. IW is a better game developer then trayarch but still not a good developer.
IW is great. They rival bungie
dude… COD is a WWII game. i don’t really like FPS war games much. i like swat but honestly the cod4 engine blows rainbow outta the water. so cod4 rocks, and i knew i wouldnt like cod5 and i don’t (just like i didn’t like any other ww2 game ever released for pc or console.) but heres the thing… its a spin-off. its like.. yakuza KENZAN! (now THERES a game i’d love to see release in us with subtitles. (F english voiceovers they suck badly) its kinda impressive that there is even going to be another modern warfare. and u can bet your azz thats ONLY because the game was so well accepted
Treyarch isn’t that bad they made 4 titles of call of duty which i think all of em were pretty good not that bad but COD 4 compared to WaW of course it would be considered crap
LOL are u serious?? not a good dev? bad because…? you get caught on a teddy bear? cod4 is the best game on the 360 imo and its all thanks to IW…..anyways, i agree 100% on the article. treyarch ftl. just waiting for MW2. cant wait ^_^
i dont know why people B*tch so much about Trayarch Vs Ward, WWII vs Modern. one game comes out evey year. If one of the developers are KO’d, one game comes out every two years. rather one modern and one old game than one modern game every two years. and yes you are in the minority, if you werent in the minority you would have had your way after COD3.
@Potter
Well my friend, you must SUCK at COD4 if you get stuck on little stuff. I have never and I do all the time in COD5. Go play COD5 you little bitch.
You suck! Treyarch made COD3 dick head
treyarch sucks major balls and their online maps are filled with glitches. hope they burn in hell. their single player was good for cod5 but still rather annoying having grenades tossed at you every 2 seconds -_-
I thought the main reason Treyarch was in on the COd series was the fact that IW didn’t have the time to release that many COD titles on such short notice… That’s why Treyarch developed COD3 while they were working on COD4, and probably why Treyarch developed COD5 while they’re finishing MW-2…
I agree with the author. Honestly, I really despise Treyarch. Not only are their official forums lacking/non-responsive, they can’t even prevent the simplest of problems from happening.
What I mean is, look at the gave save issue. If you search on various forum sites, you see this issue is quite rampant. You’d think this would be the most pressing concern to fix, but they are more concern with other things.
Also, the fact they used a lot of COD4’s content and multiplayer scheme, yet they can’t get multiplayer to work properly, astounds me.
Wow, have you played CoD5 for more than 10 minutes? You are being way to hard on the game. Don’t get me wrong, I think CoD4 is a better game overall, but give Treyarch some credit, CoD5 is FAR from a bad game.
As for going with the WW2 theme, yeah I think we’ve seen enough of that. But we don’t know that it was their decision to set it in WW2. Also, despite the played-out setting, I would argue to say it’s the best WW2 game to date. It’s also a pretty good deal, content-wise. It’s got single player, multiplayer, co-op and nazi zombie co-op. Not to mention that they have more maps on the way.
It really sounds like you were set on hating it before you even played it. I also haven’t experienced any of the issues you listed, though I don’t play S&D often enough to be sure about that one. I think most of your issues stem from the PC version, the majority of my experience has been on X360.
Anyway, I think your title was an overstatement. While I agree that IW is a better developer than Treyarch, they don’t “suck”.
You’re SO right, Treyarch sucks a big one. That’s only a small glimpse of the problems they have. Everyone I have ever talked to on COD agrees. I wish they’d stop giving them the opportunity to make it, and try a whole new company if Infinity Ward can’t do it. I’m not going to bother with COD7 if Treyarch makes it.
Cod WaW is such a bad game, I did not even make it to a level 30 befor i put Cod4 back in and sold it.
what is the problem of the person who wrote this article? some people are just trying to make money and they don’t require everyone to buy their game. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it. You talk as if you are the most perfect person in the world. the game is only $60. why do you talk as if Treyarch ripped you off with $6M?
shut up dude… it’s just a game.. and it’s affecting your life so much… see a psychiatrist…
I don’t think your the minority, since i’ve talked to my friends and they all agree. Cod5 isn’ bad in my opinion, its just average. There is nothing that special about it. There are some small improvements like the grenade warning indicator being more transparent the farther from a grenade you are, and little things like that. The graphics were slightly improved, but not much. The only really great thing about it, is that it has the nazi zombies mode which alhtough it is disturbing, it is surprisingly fun. The overall feel of Cod5 was really emo and sad comapared to Cod4. In Cod4 you were preventing a nuclear war (somewhat james bondy, but they made it feel realistic enough), but in Cod5 your main accomplishment is burning the mongrel hides of the german scum in the russian campaign, which i thought was not much fun. It made you feel like a hero in Finest Hour and the others when you were defending the sacred russian earth of stalingrad, but not so much anymore. The pacific campaign was a better in the respect but not great.
Anyway, there’s my rant.
@Hello world
uh, lol? IW made COD2, what do you mean “4 titles”? Treyarch blows, as for COD MW 2, not 6, and WaW was not 5 because it never did list it on the games packaging, or any other official web site. Fucking sheep…
treyarch dun sum good work and some really really shit work at the same time
Just FYI for some folk here who seem to believe that Treyarch is the catalyst in defining this series.
Call of Duty (IW)
Cod2 (IW)
Cod 3 (treyarch)
Cod 4 (IW)
Cod Waw (Treyarch)
IW is the progenitor and rightful master of their series
Treyarch only make halfassed console only sequels and addon packs for Infinity Ward’s game.
Just look how much fun Call of Duty 3 was!!!
i could play that for hours!
TEAM KILLING!
Treyarch is a pieve of shit and Manaen you forgot Call of duty 2: The Big Red One (may be wrong about the two part)
I play WaW on the 360 and its garbage. its designed to be a run and gun little bitch game. me and my friend tested it, and the little mp40 that uses a 9mm bullet kills you one shot in the head. the strongest rifle in the game takes two shots. rifles are the bigger gun, and require more skill to use, but they make a gun that you can just spray with stronger. another thing i noticed is that probably around 90% of the people that play this game dont aim…because they dont need to. you can spray from the hip at someone from 50 yards away and still kill them with the first 3 bullets. I can rant more so i will…back during ww2, almost no one used any kind of machine gun. they had too much recoil to be effective…but guns like the type 100 barely move at all. they have less recoil than most guns in MW. And one thing i dont like about WaW and MW are the shotguns…the range is pathetic. if your ten feet away, it wont hit you. a real shotgun will rip through a person from 50 yards away. and sometimes it wont even kill people in one shot…even though it shoots out 8 pellets that are about the same size as a 9mm pistol…but the mp40 kills you in 2 shots to the chest. bullshit game unless your a 10 year old kid who wants to play some run and gun arcade bullshit.
the cod series are good but some are better then others ow well get over it if u dont like cod dont play it but just dont complain
@grrgrrgrr kinda sounds like you suck at WaW
The only reason that WaW is even a passable game is that they lifted everything good from MW. They directly stole the whole dog fighting from MW (now it’s the banzai). They directly stole the perks system. Oh! They did add vehicles (we all remember how much fun they were in CoD 3!). They even mention MW more than their own game when they promote it.
Treyarch does NOTHING innovative with their games. They bank on the fact that people will buy any CoD game just because of the reputation that IW has built for the franchise. And it works. They take the good aspects of the previous release, fuck them up, add more vehicles, halfass the multiplayer and call it good. Then they sit back and watch the cash roll in.
Personally, I’d be more than willing to go a year without a CoD release if it meant IW would be the only ones developing CoD games.
I loved COD2, COD3 I only liked the WAR mode on Eden Dam that was it, COD4 was addictive fun and challenging but sometimes for hours straight I get the ol’ 40 bullets to kill a guy up close yet I die in 1 bullshit, this happens to me alot more in WAW and most of the guns are useless, 2 perks should be ridden from the future, stopping power juggernaut and martyrdom because all I fucking see people doing is in a desperate attempt to at least kill someone with something other than the MP40 they need stopping power, the snipers are useless without it. Juggernaut I use if even stopping power doesnt work and I just need to take at least 2 hits before going down to avoid. And martyrdom is just the cheapest fucking way to kill someone I’ve ever seen. And can someone tell me what the fucking point in Shades is? Who uses signal flares?
ok people. Fact Of the Matter is: When Compared to COD4 Modern Warfare,
WAW SUCKS MAJOR FKING BLLS! Everyone expected onther installment of Modern Warfare Not WWII. the poor guy is just upset because like many of us,we have waited 3 years for WAW? FUCK NO FUCK TREYARCH
After Modern Warfare 2s first week NOBODY IS GONNA EVEN TALK ABOUT WAW
TREYARCH EMPLOYEES ARE GONNA BE PLAYING MODERN WARFARE 2 While working on another cod wwII hahaha.
I am totally with you, I am glad that they are cancelling Treyarch’s contract with COD, old school warfare, again? come on thats been done to many times already when COD Modern Warfare 2 comes out everyone will be like Treyarch who?
OMFG WaW was alot better then modern warfare because you dont have to aim to kill someone and im 9. fuck modern warfare i love treyarch and would marry them.
OMG I thought I was alone! Treyarch sucks so friggin’ much! I have WaW, and the only reason GameStop doesn’t own it yet is the Nazi Zombies(I’m addicted to the new map, Shi no Numa) MW was so much better because it didn’t take three years to kill a guy like in WaW. Infinity Ward kicks the shit out of Treyarch.
IW made all COD’s until WaW when Treyarch 100% copied off of 4.
@ben 10
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!! Thats FUNNY
@ben 10
Fuck Modern Warfare? Kid, you really need to play some fucking real games before you go off and say that WaW is better than CoD4. CoD4 sold and is still selling more copies than WaW because ITS THE BETTER GAME. Learn to play and stop being a fucking noob.
@Hello world
dead right nick,cant wait for new yakuza,anyhow you’re right about treyarch bro,on ps3 they’ve patched it god knows how many times but that aside they’ve just released yet another new map pack that demands another ten quid from me 3v card,last time i checked (2 days ago) there wrere 700 people on the FIRST map pack.700!infinity ward kept the balance right,take two years to develop it and get it right,it worked from cod2 till cod 4 for them,yearly sequels are rapidly getting a reputation for suckin ass anyway,no time for proper testng……
COD5:WAW is the worst installment yet. IT lags soooooo much, I always see one person with four bars and everybody else has three or less. The connection is the biggest downfall of the multiplayer. It always lags and sometimes it has real bad lag spikes in between the already crappy connection. The smg’s are also way too overpowered specifically the mp40.
Treyarch is run by a bunch of retards who lack the necessary programming skills to create a well rounded game. I can’t wait for Moden warfare 2 and what ever else Infinty ward has to offer.
WAW is made for camping little bitches like yourself, I wish I could play you and people like you in COD4. You would get walked on like the girl you are, try and camp bitch and you will go negative round after round.
@Jack
Jack is right…. the only reason that WAW sold so many copies is because Infinity ward did such a good job on COD4. Treyarch has made the worst installment of the Call of duty series yet, thats why they turned to Infinty ward again.
i really want to find that ass hole that just fucked up everything im am sick of ww2 games theres about 100 ww2 games and 2 modern war games. i get sick of seeing nazi’s and m1 garands. then modern warfare comes out and its great. BUT THE FUCKING ASSHOLES THINK ITS FUNNY TO GO BACK. time to move on and fight some terrorists. i hope everyone at treyarch pays for wat they did to cod
Call of duty WaW isn’t terrible, it just is so unoriganal, and is plagued by so many small problems that have big effects(FUCKING MP 40!!!!!!)
Treyarch, we suck the fun out of gaming!
Der Riese Zombie map is cool but they’ve lowered the bullet dammage and a Zombie can take you down with one swipe even with jug on. Moreso, I hate the fact that if you even get near a zombie you get stuck, you can’t get away.
I think Treyarch approaches game development with a “what can we do to really piss off the player” mentality.
Treyarch sucks the fun out of gaming period!
Do u think that treyarch has showed an ingnoring behaviour to cod 5 pc members? Well im pretty sure for this… First, map packs for xbox and ps3 and after 5 WEEKS AVAILABLE FOR PC!. 2 days ago someone who had ps3 could anly play some idiot games and now….ps3 had become more important than PC!!!!!!!! Guys treyarch SUCKS. I will never buy treyarch games again
Treyarch sucks so fucking bad, its crazy. The servers they use are shit and you cant even get into a game. on the 360 you have all these littles basterd children that should have been aborted, cheating their asses off, you cant even kill them with a full clip. Fuck treyarch
They even realesed a modding program for the 360 that these little shits turned around and use to cheat in the online multiplayer. what were they thinking.
FUCK TREYARCH! The worst game dev i’ve seen….You guys aint alone on this topic.
Wow! I can’t believe the hate on COD:WAW on this site. Yea, I love COD4, but I think WAW is awesome as well, in fact I feel it’s the better game and here’s why:
-Better and more Epic storyline
-12-15 hours of playtime instead of a measly 8 (campaign mode)
-Much larger multiplayer maps
-Vehicle Maps
-Oh yeah, let’s talk map packs. 3 in 6 months as opposed to 1 in 2 years (IW is still touting it on thier website like it’s the hottest thing.)
-Zombie Mode
-Co-OP Campaign
-Dismemberment (adds realism)
Don’t get me wrong, COD4 is still awesome, but I think WAW helped advance the franchise and I’m sure modern warfare 2 will be amazing. If your not playing WAW because it’s treyarch, it’s too bad because your missing out on a great game.
Black Cats
I agree with the article. I’ve played, gotten to my 10th Prestige and all, but even with all the experience, I can’t stop 1st prestige, level 9s who have MP40. Why do you think they put a douchey noob weapon in COD4? So people could get good at the game. But no! What does Treyarch? The MP40! If anything it would be the Thompson that would be the Noob Weapon. The MP40 back then was not a reliable gun.
But, IW is nerfing the M16 in MW2, so no more noob weapons. Thanks IW.
I hate to break it to you, but Tryarch is a damn good developer. Really good. Comparing them to I.W. is like comparing Capstone to Valve. Its no contest. However, if you, like me, spend majority of your time playing the online modes you probibly liked COD: WaW. The reason being that it has tank maps, larger maps, better ballence (In COD4 SAS and Marines had an advantage because they were more difficult to see, it makes a difference in small matches), co-op and the awsome, and Nazi Zombies mode is excelent. I only had two big issues with the game. One: it was glitchy in single-player, especially the last Russian levels Two: The multiplayer interface was hopelessly broken at launch. On the PC, in order to refresh the server list one had to quit and restart the game. Luckily Tryarch Patched this quickly. This was also the first WWII shooter I have ever played so the story did not feel to jaded (Though I can understand your gripe Hint: I am a PC game who grew up with sci-fi shooter like Quake and Half-life). COD4 had a much better story, but both games share the same tight combat and mechanics. Tryarch also expands on COD4 with some of the best vehicle levels in an FPS. What COD4 has in spades, to this day, is pacing. Both games are excelent and are worth your time.
A parting note: If you have an Xbox sell it and buy a PC. Then you won’t have to rely on auto-aim to play the game for you. If you only own a Wii, kill yourself now and make life easier on the rest of us.
Simply put: Tryarch is not as good as IW, but far better that most of the industry.
LoL
Quote my freind: Tryarch may not know how to make a game, but they sure make on hell of a bouns level.
Nazi Zombies FTW
@Hello world
They made cod 3 and cod waw, the 2 worst games in the series. IW made cod 2 and cod 4, the two best in the series. I hate Treyarch with a passion because they piggyback off of IW’s success and they make terrible games.
@gunman
Lol, your a fag. The guy is just putting his opinion out there and it’s obviously effecting you as much as it is him or you wouldn’t be on this site.